Since the Benjamin street post, we’ve had quite a lot of emails from people who claim to have been in the same boat.

This Email was received yesterday. I wanted to post this one in particular because some good points have been raised about the potential risk involved in paying via paypal which I think you should all be aware of.

It reads as follows:
After my having noticed an un-recognised ‘PayPal’ ‘Repetitive Charge’ leaving my Debit Card, (with his name all over it).
Although the charge was only for the sum of 8.50 GBP monthly, I could not recall ever having subscribed to any of his services.  I, of course, immediately attempted to contact him, or his representatives, through the ‘Support Line E-Mail Address’ provided on his website. I wrote asking whether they could perhaps refresh my memory as to which particular service I had subscribed to.

At this point I genuinely believed that I had simply forgotten or mislaid the relevant subscription details.

I received no reply, even after various follow up attempts. I naturally then cancelled the ‘PayPal’ ‘Repetitive Charge’ from being able to repeat itself at any point in the future.

A word of warning on this point;
It should be noted,
‘PayPal’, do not offer the same kind of representational money back ’safety net’ as is available through certain other Online Order/Payment Services, like say ‘Click Bank’ for example. This means that, for any ‘Services’,’ Products’ or ‘Subscriptions’ that offer a ‘Money Back Guarantee’, that are payable through ‘PayPal’, the chances that the ‘Buyer’ will actually end up being honoured by any such offer, lie entirely at the discretion and through the entirely voluntary response of the particular ‘Seller’ involved.

The agreement is strictly one between ‘Buyer’ and ‘Seller’, and ‘PayPal’ make no claims for the integrity of any of the ‘Sellers’ that operate by means of payment through their service.

Basically, I lost out and the money is gone.

The charge had only been for a sum of 8.50 GBP but was set to go out monthly,and,after having checked through my various E-Mail folders, I could find no evidence of any correspondence from any Body clearly related to any ‘Benjamin Street’, nor was I able to find any Organization clearly connected to him whatsoever, and this was after having searched back several weeks into the past

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Mr Street himself was even kind enough to get in contact with us. The only thing he had to say regarding the issue was this:

“I always give refunds when asked, but I do ask the customer to wait the 60 days trial period until I do so.”

I will leave it at that and allow you to make your own minds up about Benjamin Street. Let us know If you have any comments on the above good or bad.

If you want a refund on any of his systems then just ask as he states above. If you’re having trouble getting through to his support team then just let me know and I will forward you his personal email address as I am sure he will be very pleased to help. Remember you can always claim your own refund on a clickbank product by sending your receipt to refunds@clickbank.com

One Particular email read…..

I am contacting you not for any review but to let you know about a system called “Wickedly Evil Betting System” which I attach for your knowledge. At the moment the system disappeared from the web after I asked  for a refundI bought the system for £37.00 GBP  and used for a few weeks. I had heavy losses and won 4 times.

As I had the guarantee from the owner of the system for 60 days, which name is Benjamin-Street, I asked for a refund and explained him my reasons for doing that, although it was stated on the guarantee no questions asked. I also sent to him a list of all my transactions as a proof of my bets. He was selling the system under the Info UK Ltd merchant name. I heard nothing from him and after my request of the refund his web site and the merchant site disappeared from the web and I didn’t get any reply and no refund. One of his most recent products is  The Betfair Code

This is just a warning to those who have purchased from this person to be aware. If anyone has had any bad experiences with this “Benjamin Street” please let us know

Using a similar name to m own is a blatant way of trying to trick visitors into beleiving the emails they send come from myself and this has already proved to be the case.

It is already obvious that they are using the review site to promote there own systems which is a scam in itself.

My emails will always come from webmaster@bettingsystemreviews.co.uk and will always point you to www.bettingsystemreviews.co.uk or another page on the website.

Be warned!

“I joined NAPFOOTBALL.COM on the 20/03/2009 after following their results for some time, the results were very good as they should be as the cost to join the service was a hefty200 euros for 30 days membership.

 After signing up, and paying the fee, I realised that this was the most misleading and dishonest site I had come across with omitting most of the losing results and taken selection OFF the site when they actually LOST once again, what comes across a very good service is actually one of the worst football sites I have belonged too!.

After complaining to them, on which I got no response I raised a dispute with PAYPAL and my credit card company, again there was no response from the morons and I had funds credited back to my credit  card.

Please warn ALL your members of your newsletter to KEEP away from these people!! they are based abroad.”

If anyone has anything to say about Napfootball.com be it good or bad then please let me know.

The email read as follows:

“Please would you expose this tipster who runs the following three services:

www.lay365.co.uk
www.syndicate100.eu
www.premiersystem.co.uk

Syndicate 100, which I have been using for three months, is almost identical to lay365, word for word, except for the results, which differ.  It is unbelievable.  The cheek.  It’s very convincing too if you have only seen one site.  My trial did okay for a few weeks before bombing, and was nowhere near the very consistent 7 years of results.  The first losing month he said, “that’s the first losing month in over 7 years I’ve been running the system”.  The next losing month, he stopped replying to my emails and stopped updating the results, as I now read he did with lay365.  I’ve asked for a refund as a matter of course but am not expecting a penny.  Please help in shutting the tipster down as I believe there are good ones out there.   It seems that syndicate100 was started up just as lay365 stopped.  It went live in December 2008 I believe, lay365 results end in November when people started getting wise.

As I said.  It’s not on and needs to be out there so no-one else loses money.”

If anyone has anything to say about any of the above services be it good or bad then please let me know.

“This outfit have tried to con £97 from me.They offered a 90 day free trial of their tips (one a day) as long as I sent them a bank standing order for £97 a month which they said I could cancel at any time. This seemed a fair offer and I used the free post envelope to send my standing order. I then received a phone number to ring each day and the tips were rubbish. I then realised that Brando had not put their address or tel no on any letter so I could not contact them to cancel the s/o. MY bank said they could not cancel the standing order until it was sent by Brando and although I spotted it the day Brando sent it to my bank the bank said they had to pay the first payment and then I could cancel. So Brando got one payment and no doubt lots of other mugs also lost one payment of £97 very clever! ”

If anyone has anything to say about Brando Racing be it good or bad then please let me know.

And Another

“I had exactly the same result with BRANDO as you mentioned in your Newsleter of 5th June. Over the 3 month trial period, I found the results extremely poor. I sent a letter to them asking them to cancel my direct debit before the first one became due but although they did not reply or bank it on the 1st of the due month, a couple of weeks in, they took the first £97.  Like you mentioned, I also had seen my bank before this date and but they explained they could not stop a SO until it had been received by them.  I wrote to BRANDO to explain I had written to them to cancel my SO, but they said they never received the letter (very convenient for them). They inferred that they would not be sending me a refund. As you say, a nasty SCAM.”

And Another

“My story is very similar to the one you wrote about. In my case I tried phoning the number given (0844 371 8010 plus a pin number) I could not get through to the number given as my local telecoms gave the message that the number was not recognised -  so the service was no use to me; so sent a letter to Brando at: Mr Namath 43 Portland Road, Hove, East Sussex, BN3 5DQ.(Posted  2/9/2008) Formally requesting him to cancel my standing order mandate for £97 commencing not before 1/11/08. asking for Brando to confirm to me this had been done. Not receiving a word my suspicions were aroused. So looking online at my bank standing orders Oct 1st 12th 22nd 23rd 24th 30th Nov 6th 10th 17th. Then presumed he had done the “honourable” thing! Happened to go online again 27th Nov (14:24) and to my horror saw the £97 had been taken that very same day the 27th.I immediately phone the bank and asked them to cancel all future payments and try and retrieve the one sent, the person I spoke to at the bank was quite helpful and also hopeful that they could get it back – but he phoned me next day saying “it” had gone through and they could not get it back for me. I then sent a second letter to Mr Namath – suggesting if he had not got my first letter he would reconsider in the circumstances and refund my money as I am an O.A.P. Imagine my feelings going on line to the bank on 8th December seeing that a further £97 had been taken on the 4th December (just SEVEN days later)! That 2nd £97 was a fight between me and my bank which I eventually got back about three months later ! ! Hoping this will confirm to you what my thoughts are about BRANDO ! !”

I received another email today which is almost identical in that it describes the same problem almost word for word.

It reads as follows:

“Dear Iain,  Have you ever had any adverse reports about ” theinsiderail”?  Not about the tips they give but the feed back on email.  They offered me a 30 day free trial but although they produced really good results I did not feel that I could afford to start a new bank so I decided to cancel my trial. Since that email I have sent 4 emails; two to the cancellation address and in an attempt to get some reaction 3 to the information address.  All have been ignored. I have checked and the addresses are all correct. Not only that but they have taken another months subscription. and still they are not replying to my emails. I’ve had to contact both Netbanx and my own bank to put a stop to the subscriptions. I expect that they think I’m trying some fiddle I’m not.”

As far as the tips are concerned I can’t really comment but there is no proof of results on the website and they only appear to show a list of winning bets.

I did find a discussion on a forum about the service in general which can be read here

I think it is fair to warn others of the problems and would love to hear from anyone who has encountered similar problems or from anyone who can vouch for the service.

Update:

Another complaint as follows:

“I took out their 30 day trial in January and I am still trying to cancel it. I have sent an e-mail from 4 different e-mail addresses every 3 days, yet they continue to ignore me. I have contacted Netbanx twice and recieved no reply. Please tell me how you made them stop. It would be most appreciated.”

And Another

“Dear Ian,

I’ve just read the report on your site, re: the Inside Rail. I’ve just written an article myself about the very same service, which I will be publishing shortly.

I signed up to their trial, many months ago and subsequently cancelled it, mainly due to the fact that it is a very poor service! I continued to receive tips from them however and after many more emails, eventually received a reply stating that they had cancelled my subscription but were still sending me advices ‘as an act of goodwill’.

Imagine my surprise, when 3 months later they took out a subscription fee from my bank account! I emailed them on 3 different occasions, asking for explanations and received no replies, so I emailed Netbanx, who basically didn’t want to know and advised me to contact Inside Rail directly!

One morning, I received another tip, which came with a brief review of the race. As if by magic, it was a complete replica of a tip I’d received from another tipping service that I use. I immediately emailed them, accusing them of ‘ripping off’ other services and was absolutely amazed, when I received a reply within 30 seconds!

I replied to this email, asking why he could reply that quickly to one email and completely ignore all of the others I’d sent him previously, to which he replied that he hadn’t received them.

I therefore emailed him the 3 previous letters there and then. He replied, stating that it was the first time that he seen them and that he would ‘look into it for me’.

Needless to say, I’ve heard nothing since and this was about 3 weeks ago. Rest assured that I will be handing the matter over to the police should I have any further problems with them.

Hope this is of some help to your readers.

Regards
Andy Merrikin”

And Another

“I too had problems getting The Inside Rail to cancel my subscription.  I sent cancellation emails 3 weeks into my trial as all of the tips had lost, and I became very suspicious of their claims for previous results.  I therefore should have paid them nothing, but they took 3 monthly subscriptions before they finally actioned the cancellation.  My emails requesting a refund have never been responded to.”

And Another

“Another for your inside rail collection, Apart from anything else the claims of 10 winning months are way off mark, The threat of the banks security dept , done the trick for me and refund of £70 was recieved,
Stay away from this service for more than one reason.”

And Another

“Hi Iain I’m not surprised to see all the adverse comments on the Inside Rail..I think a more apt title would be The Wayward Snail..I had dealings with them 4-5 years ago..I still get all their BS claiming fantastic winning runs,,but my experience was long losing runs,,I gave up in the end,,I was in New Zealand at the time,and sadly there was no internet banking then,so they actually got 4 extra payments out of me,(2 in the one month)before I could stop it..Then came the hassel of trying to get back their mis-appropriated takings,which after a long battle I never got..So your doing a good thing warning your clientelle off,because not only are their advices a load of crap,,but their methods of doing business leave a lot to be desired..Its a shame the Powers That Be,stopped sending people like these to Australia..he he he..Keep up the good work ”

Whenever I am asked to remove a review I always point out that I am allowed to pass on my opinions to others and that my comments are justified unless proven otherwise.

Malcom did not provide me with the proof but instead chose to make further threats. As we speak Malcom is currently setting up another website with the aim of slurring my own character. This has been done before by other unhappy system sellers so it’s nothing new to me and neither will it be too many of you either.

When system sellers respond in such ways it actually gives me a great deal of satisfaction as it proves to me that my original reviews of the systems were fully justified.

An honest system seller would chose to work with me in proving the systems worth after all, wouldn’t they?

He obviously cannot resist the lure of taking more unsuspected punters cash hence his return.

He is promising his new updated version of the system will make you huge profits but once again fails to tell you how much you can lose if and when it all goes wrong.

Avoid at all costs is my advice as always.

The people who contacted me were all sent to betus via John Morrison of Sports Betting Champ who heavily promotes the sportsbook on a regular basis.

Sports Betting Champ got a one star rating from myself and is not all it seems..

I am unsure of John’s involvement with betus but he says he has a deal with them where you get a huge sign up bonus if you join them and mention him. He also suggests you place the bets on his system with betus.

What doesn’t make sense to me is that John claims to have the ultimate winning system yet betus are happy to accept bets from punters who wish to use the system.

Why would any bookmaker want your business if you’re going to win so much money as John claims on his website?

Maybe john knows you will lose long term and receive commission from BETUS on losing accounts? To back this theory up John also promotes a casino system to be used at BETUS which promises the usual riches.

I have had reports that it actually doesn’t work and all your money is lost using it.

Steer well clear is my firm advice on this one and anything else John promotes.